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Screen

The currently studied aspect ratios for SNES widescreen are the following:

16:9 widescreen. There's an additional 48 columns to the left and right side of the screen. Resolution is 352x224, stretched to simulate the 8:7 pixel aspect ratio.
21:9 widescreen (actually 64:27). There's an additional 96 columns to the left and right side of the screen. Resolution is 448x224, stretched to simulate the 8:7 pixel aspect ratio.
2:1 widescreen. There's an additional 64 columns to the left and right side of the screen. Resolution is 384x224, stretched to simulate the 8:7 pixel aspect ratio.

16:9 (352x224) and 21:9 (448x224) are the most important ones currently.

Reference table

DAR (display aspect ratio)	Numerical DAR	SNES internal resolution	Extras columns per side	Numerical PAR (pixel aspect ratio)	Notes
8:7	1.1428	256x224	0	1.0000	Most of the emulators doesn't apply pixel aspect ratio (leaves as 1:1). Keep this value as reference.
4:3	1.3333	256x224	0	1.1667	Real hardware reference. Certain TVs pixel aspect ratio are 1.1428 instead of 1.1667, due of signal interpretation differences.
16:10	1.6000	304x224	24	1.1789	Used to be common on some PC monitors, mostly replaced to 16:9.
16:9	1.7778	352x224	48	1.1313	Most common widescreen nowadays, being the recommended choice.
2:1	2.0000	384x224	64	1.1667	Some smartphones (marketed as 18:9) often uses this aspect ratio and calls it as ultrawide. The 21:9 version can be used keeping in mind a 1:1 PAR.
21:9	2.3703	448x224	96	1.1851	Commonly used on cinema and ultrawide monitors. "21:9" is a marketing term. The real aspect ratio is 64:27 (used by the HDMI standard) and it's used as reference for this table.
24:9	2.6667	512x224	128	1.1667	Maximum widescreen possible. Also known as 8:3. Horizontal scrolling is not really possible, NES-like methods would be needed.

Comparison with 4:3 standard

The 256x224 SNES screen is not 4:3, but rather 8:7. CRT screens usually stretches the image by multiplying the internal screen width by 8/7 or 7/6, depending on the TV model. 8/7 seems to be more common, while 7/6 gives an perfect 4:3 output, since 8:7 (screen aspect ratio) * 7/6 (pixel aspect ratio) = 4/3 (actual aspect ratio), while 8:7 (screen aspect ratio) * 8/7 (pixel aspect ratio) = 64:49 (more like 4.0000:3.0625). Use the above reference table for clarification.

Important note

All values consider the NTSC signal as reference. PAL equivalence calculations are not yet available.

Objects

Since OAM sprite width is 9-bit wide, allowing values between -256 to +255, the internal range is adjusted in a manner the negative range also wraps positively. You can assume the values to range between -128 and +384, which are mapped that way: if unsigned position is greater than or equal to 384, subtract 512 from it. Else, keep value as is.

Sprites that already knows how to handle the left screen boundary (position -1 to -16) can be easily adapted to work with the widescreen range. Otherwise, it's recommended to port the relative screen position to use 16-bit values.

In addition, it doesn't break other emulators, since the additional visible area is implicitly invisible on the SNES hardware specification.

Windowing

Assume that the windowing internal size is 512 lines long instead of 256 lines long. If you take the windowing calculations based from this perspective, windowing HDMA will work regardless of the aspect ratio being currently used (16:9, 21:9, etc.)

Given that a window is between 00:FF, this means that 00 would be -128 in equivalent absolute position, 80 would be +128 and FF would be +383.

Formula when default PPU is used: f(x) -> x

Formula when widescreen is active: f(x) -> 2*x - 128

Emulator

https://github.com/DerKoun/bsnes-hd

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/bmc9t9/bsneshd_beta_5_bsnes_1073_formally_hd_mode_7_mod

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-(''first draft, please point out any mistakes and ask any questions'')
+== Screen ==
-== widescreen-specific code ==
+The currently studied aspect ratios for SNES widescreen are the following:
-=== objects ===
-Objects are up to 64 pixels wide.<br>
-For their x coordinates we have a 9 bit unsigned integer,<br>
-i.e. values from 0 to 511.<br>
-to 255 are the visible columns of the screen.<br>
-To be able to have objects start off the left side and extend into the screen, the values wrap,<br>
-i.e. 449 to 511 is treated as -63 to -1.<br>
-to 448 place objects outside of the visible area.
-For widescreen 16:9 we add 64 pixels to each side.<br>
+# 16:9 widescreen. There's an additional 48 columns to the left and right side of the screen. Resolution is 352x224, stretched to simulate the 8:7 pixel aspect ratio.
-So the visible columns of the (wide) screen are now -64 to 319,<br>
+# 21:9 widescreen (actually 64:27). There's an additional 96 columns to the left and right side of the screen. Resolution is 448x224, stretched to simulate the 8:7 pixel aspect ratio.
-or technically 448 to 511 and 0 to 319.<br>
+# 2:1 widescreen. There's an additional 64 columns to the left and right side of the screen. Resolution is 384x224, stretched to simulate the 8:7 pixel aspect ratio.
-So with objects partially off screen to the left the minimal coordinate with visible content is -127 aka 385.
-Using that coordinate space you can place objects in the widescreen area quite similar to placing them in the normal screen area.
+:9 (352x224) and 21:9 (448x224) are the most important ones currently.
+=== Reference table ===
+{| class="wikitable"
+|-
+! DAR (display aspect ratio) !! Numerical DAR !! SNES internal resolution !! Extras columns per side !! Numerical PAR (pixel aspect ratio) !! Notes
+|-
+| 8:7 || 1.1428 || 256x224 || 0 || 1.0000 || Most of the emulators doesn't apply pixel aspect ratio (leaves as 1:1). Keep this value as reference.
+|-
+| 4:3 || 1.3333 || 256x224 || 0 || 1.1667 || Real hardware reference. Certain TVs pixel aspect ratio are 1.1428 instead of 1.1667, due of signal interpretation differences.
+|-
+| 16:10 || 1.6000 || 304x224 || 24 || 1.1789 || Used to be common on some PC monitors, mostly replaced to 16:9.
+|-
+| 16:9 || 1.7778 || 352x224 || 48 || 1.1313 || Most common widescreen nowadays, being the recommended choice.
+|-
+| 2:1 || 2.0000 || 384x224 || 64 || 1.1667 || Some smartphones (marketed as 18:9) often uses this aspect ratio and calls it as ultrawide. The 21:9 version can be used keeping in mind a 1:1 PAR.
+|-
+| 21:9 || 2.3703 || 448x224 || 96 || 1.1851 || Commonly used on cinema and ultrawide monitors. "21:9" is a marketing term. The real aspect ratio is 64:27 (used by the HDMI standard) and it's used as reference for this table.
+|-
+| 24:9 || 2.6667 || 512x224 || 128 || 1.1667 || Maximum widescreen possible. Also known as 8:3. Horizontal scrolling is not really possible, NES-like methods would be needed.
+|}
+=== Comparison with 4:3 standard ===
+The 256x224 SNES screen is not 4:3, but rather 8:7. [[CRT]] screens usually stretches the image by multiplying the internal screen width by 8/7 or 7/6, depending on the TV model. 8/7 seems to be more common, while 7/6 gives an perfect 4:3 output, since 8:7 (screen aspect ratio) * 7/6 (pixel aspect ratio) = 4/3 (actual aspect ratio), while 8:7 (screen aspect ratio) * 8/7 (pixel aspect ratio) = 64:49 (more like 4.0000:3.0625). Use the above reference table for clarification.
+=== Important note ===
+All values consider the NTSC signal as reference. PAL equivalence calculations are not yet available.
+== Objects ==
+Since OAM sprite width is 9-bit wide, allowing values between -256 to +255, the internal range is adjusted in a manner the negative range also wraps positively. You can assume the values to range between -128 and +384, which are mapped that way: if unsigned position is greater than or equal to 384, subtract 512 from it. Else, keep value as is.
+Sprites that already knows how to handle the left screen boundary (position -1 to -16) can be easily adapted to work with the widescreen range. Otherwise, it's recommended to port the relative screen position to use 16-bit values.
+In addition, it doesn't break other emulators, since the additional visible area is implicitly invisible on the SNES hardware specification.
+== Windowing ==
+Assume that the windowing internal size is 512 lines long instead of 256 lines long. If you take the windowing calculations based from this perspective, windowing [[HDMA]] will work regardless of the aspect ratio being currently used (16:9, 21:9, etc.)
+Given that a window is between 00:FF, this means that 00 would be -128 in equivalent absolute position, 80 would be +128 and FF would be +383.
+Formula when default PPU is used:
+f(x) -> x
+Formula when widescreen is active:
+f(x) -> 2*x - 128
+== Emulator ==
+https://github.com/DerKoun/bsnes-hd
+https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/bmc9t9/bsneshd_beta_5_bsnes_1073_formally_hd_mode_7_mod
+[[Category:Video]]